勇士本赛季主场连胜伊戈达拉主场的场均得分是不是比他客场场均得分要高

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北京时间6月17日,NBA总决赛今日上午落下帷幕,勇士队客场105-97击败骑士队,时隔40年再次夺得总冠军。赛后的颁奖典礼上,勇士全队喜气洋洋,库里满心欢喜期待着总决赛MVP奖杯的到来,而亚当-萧华开口却喊出了一个让人意外的名字:伊戈达拉,而这也成了总决赛之后的最大争议。
凤凰体育讯 北京时间6月17日,NBA总决赛今日上午落下帷幕,勇士队客场105-97击败骑士队,时隔40年再次夺得总冠军。赛后的颁奖典礼上,勇士全队喜气洋洋,库里满心欢喜期待着总决赛MVP奖杯的到来,而亚当-萧华开口却喊出了一个让人意外的名字:伊戈达拉,而这也成了总决赛之后的最大争议。 尽管伊戈达拉在本次总决赛的表现令人印象深刻,可是他的数据确实有些寒酸,场均仅有16.3分、5.8个篮板和4次助攻,得分在历史上所有的总决赛MVP当中位列倒数第三位。而且前三战伊戈达拉还都是以替补身份出场,他也成为了历史上首位常规赛担任替补且没有首发全部总决赛比赛的FMVP。 在NBA历史上,当季常规赛MVP拿到总冠军却未能当选FMVP的例子仅有一个:1980年的湖人队。贾巴尔当选常规赛MVP,身为新秀的魔术师约翰逊则当选FMVP,但需要注意的是,当年魔术师拿到FMVP是因为第六战贾巴尔因伤休战,而魔术师顶替他出任中锋狂砍42分15篮板,与伊戈达拉的案例显然不属于同一类型。事实上伊戈达拉自己也明白这点,所以赛后采访时他才表示,系列赛开始前他本以为库里或者格林才可能是FMVP的获得者。 所以你可以理解,为何场均26+5+6,被包夹了足足6场的库里会在萧华喊出伊戈达拉名字时面露惊讶,虽然他很快也加入了为伊戈达拉欢呼的行列当中,可网络上球迷们显然无法如库里一样淡定。尤其是当他们得知11名参与投票的专家中竟然没有一人投给库里时(伊戈达拉获得7票,詹姆斯4票),各种有趣的观点也铺天盖地刷新在互联网上,诸如&联盟二桃杀三士让勇士内讧&、&耐克打压安德玛&、&博彩公司暗箱操作&等等。当然这些言论有些过于奇葩,但显然萧华上台以来,联盟关于FMVP的评判标准已经在发生变动。 以往斯特恩在任时,评选的标准很简单,基本就是赢球一方得分最高的球员当选。所以07年FMVP给了帕克而非邓肯,08年给了皮尔斯而非加内特。但萧华上台后,防守球员的得分比重显著提高,伦纳德和伊戈达拉当选,就是因为他们很好限制了詹姆斯,所以即使他们不是队内的第一战术核心,却仍然可以挤掉球队老大当选FMVP,而KG等人,或许只能感慨自己生不逢时,如网友所说的那般&哭晕在厕所里&。 不过这种评选方式,势必也会引发巨大争议,毕竟综合来看,库里的作用还是明显要强于伊戈达拉的,甚至哪怕FMVP给詹姆斯,似乎都更合理一些。而NBA如果想要杜绝这样的争议,其实很简单,效仿其他联盟出一个季后赛总MVP,授予&冠军球队整个季后赛表现最好的球员&即可。可惜这样的提议始终未能成行,不过萧华已经准备大刀阔斧进行改革,季后赛都有可能会采用新赛制,奖项进行更人性化的改革,谁又敢说一定不可能呢?(ssnake)
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以防守大闸著称的小AI如今已经有一份掘金自家开出的5年6300W年均1260W的合同打底了。而国王更是开出了1400W年均的合同。而在那个加亮帖子里,居然有JRS说目前的小AI值1600W。。。然而,翻看履历却令人惊讶。以防守著称的小AI至今居然只有一次二防的经历,其他再无任何荣誉。而全明星也仅在上上个赛季作为战绩进步突出的76人的球队代表边缘入围(全明星教练投票的时候76人战绩高居东部前三,仅次于公牛和热火)。当然JRS会说他还有组织能力,他还有得分能力。但是无论如何连续两个赛季13分5篮板5助攻左右的数据,我感觉都只是一个中等偏上首发球员的水平。伊戈达拉这种身体流的球员一般30岁以后就开始走下坡,而下赛季他就30岁了。我们可以参考联盟中和他作用类似的另外两位球员。一位是前掘金队的阿佛拉罗,上赛季正是他和伊戈达拉在三方交易中分别易主,他来到了重建的魔术,打出了15+4+3的不俗表现,他的年薪在700W左右。而另外一位是当年穆雷钦点,随后换来小黑豆和的巴图姆。他上赛季得到了一份4年4600W的长约,年均在1150W左右,他上赛季的数据和小AI基本一样,是14分5篮板5助攻。我个人感觉掘金给出的均价大概就是小AI目前水品的价值,但是居然给了5年。我前面说了这种比较依赖身体的球员30岁后会走下坡,所以以后价值会逐年下降,所以我觉得和可能3年后就变成垃圾合同。[ 此帖被黑屋捡肥皂在 13:56修改 ]
一哥最好的一点就是从不占过多球权,都能打出身价,难道是以前和小艾打球时养成的习惯?当个二当家会非常不错,湖人签了吧。发自手机虎扑
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一哥最好的一点就是从不占过多球权,都能打出身价,难道是以前和小艾打球时养成的习惯?当个二当家会非常不错,湖人签了吧。
做不了二当家,得分能力太差。在76人当老大都只有14分的水平。。。感觉就是个极品冠军拼图。
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做不了二当家,得分能力太差。在76人当老大都只有14分的水平。。。感觉就是个极品冠军拼图。
没错。这年头想夺冠,需要韦德,西部,或者帕克这种水平的二当家。当然你说邓肯是二当家我也没意见。总之没有这种超巨级别的二当家,没戏
“只要能帮助球队赢球,什么事我都会去做。”
“我不会把所有的事都做得过于华丽。”
“我一辈子都要成为一名胜利者。”
----- 克里斯?保罗
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没错。这年头想夺冠,需要韦德,西部,或者帕克这种水平的二当家。当然你说邓肯是二当家我也没意见。总之没有这种超巨级别的二当家,没戏
不知道你是不是在黑抱团,但是我觉得现在对二当家的要求真心很高,没有20分都不好意思称自己是核。
个人觉得小AI打球还是偏技术、意识型的,虽然身体素质很好。。。
2011年的:  安德烈-伊戈达拉  预计数据:每40分钟15.2分6.2个篮板6.4次助攻;效率值16.70  ●顶级的运动能力,联盟最好的外线防守者。  ●快攻中具备统治力,兼具控球、弹跳、速度和传球技术。  ●半场进攻一般,跳投不稳定。能够也乐意传球。  伊戈达拉上赛季开始转型成组织前锋;他每40分钟少得2.3分,但助攻率上升了。他的助攻率和纯组织数值领衔所有小前锋;事实上,伊戈达拉的两项数据都是NBA非控卫中最好的。  伊戈达拉仍是极佳的终结者,跳投则一般;他的问题出在投篮比重。他的篮下命中率达到惊人的72.6%,但出手不如以往那么多DD连出场比他少多了的格兰特-希尔篮下出手都多于他,这足以说明问题。 
 相反,伊戈达拉有将近一半的两分投篮来自16到23尺,1/4的投篮是三分球。虽然他的中距离命中率37%,三分命中率33.7%都还过得去,但绝对不
是强项;他越少攻击篮筐,他作为得分手的价值就越低。结果就是,虽然他具备终结能力和造罚球能力,真实命中率却很一般。在造罚球环节上,69.3%生涯最
低的罚球命中率也影响了他,而且他进入联盟后投篮就没进步过DD现在并不比20岁的时候更准。  不过在防守方面,伊戈达拉就是专家了DD他是联盟最好的外线防守者,甚至要优于托尼-阿伦。伊戈达拉还有极高的抢断率和联盟最低的犯规率DD每40分钟1.77次。只有6名球员犯规比他低,但这些人可不需要每晚盯防詹姆斯科比。  数据也反映出伊戈达拉的出色。76人有他在场,每100回合少丢4.02分,防守数据上他是同位置第3好的防守者,仅次于詹姆斯和阿泰。最惊人的是,伊戈达拉上赛季对位的小前锋,效率值只有可怜的10.2。2012年的:  安德烈-伊戈达拉
  预计数据:每40分钟14.7分6.8个篮板6.0次助攻,效率值17.5
  ●顶级的运动能力,联盟最棒的外线防守者。
  ●快攻中统治力十足,兼具速度、传球和超强的终结技术。
  ●半场进攻一般。传球很棒,但外线平平。
  虽然伊戈达拉匪夷所思地没进防守一阵,但他顶级的防守能力终于得到了些许认可,因此首度进入全明星,并在76人的季后赛之旅中备受关注。不论以
哪种标准,他都是具备影响力的防守者――Synergy网站再次认为他是全队最佳,他对位小前锋的效率值只有可怜的8.7。他的抢断率在同位置第7,同时
还有联盟最低的犯规率之一。
  进攻方面,伊戈达拉是真正的控球前锋――连续第2年纯组织数值控卫最佳,每40分钟6.1次助攻。他的防守在这里的帮助也很大,因为他经常是能在抢断和抢到篮板后发起快攻,迅速传球并帮助队友得分。
  在半场进攻中,伊戈达拉的威力就没这么大了。当他能靠近篮框时,他很棒,命中率高达75.2%――全联盟第3,但他的罚球命中率只有
61.7%,远距离两分命中率仅33.5%。他真正提高的是三分球,场均出手近3次,命中率39.4%。不过过去两个赛季,他的进攻戏份略有下滑――这个
改变或许更适合他的能力。至于2013年的,估计过一两个月就该出来了。
又比荣誉。。。不能说完全没用,但真体现不出一个人的绝对水准,尤其是针对防守而言。就像总统,数据和荣誉都不是数一数二,可是谁敢说他的防守不算顶级?
MJ、LBJ、KOBE或者是谁都不能完全代表整个NBA。NBA也不能完全代表篮球。篮球才是我们共同的快乐。而不是。。。你懂的。
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又比荣誉。。。不能说完全没用,但真体现不出一个人的绝对水准,尤其是针对防守而言。就像总统,数据和荣誉都不是数一数二,可是谁敢说他的防守不算顶级?
巴蒂尔都有2次二防。都比伊戈达拉多。虽说荣誉不能说明一切,但是作为顶级防守球员居然只有1次二防。而防守阵容是教练选的,你觉得NBA教练都不懂球?
不得不说像小AI这样的球员确实是一个好球员,谦虚,无私,训练狂,好队友,好好先生,当关键时刻他也可以承担责任,虽然依他的身体发展成这样可能确实有点不足,但是何必要在乎这么多呢?小AI已经是一个好球员了,远远没有楼主说的那么不济,今年他在常规赛努力为队友创造机会,打勇士那一轮在全队哑火时又是他扛起了炸药包开始突击。
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不得不说像小AI这样的球员确实是一个好球员,谦虚,无私,训练狂,好队友,好好先生,当关键时刻他也可以承担责任,虽然依他的身体发展成这样可能确实有点不足,但是何必要在乎这么多呢?小AI已经是一个好球员了,远远没有楼主说的那么不济,今年他在常规赛努力为队友创造机会,打勇士那一轮在全队哑火时又是他扛起了炸药包开始突击。
球员的好坏要以合同来作为参考,因为NBA不是我们打野球,实力就是一切。迳遣皇呛们蛟保苛跻姿故遣皇呛们蛟保克嵌疾淮恚桥渖夏歉龃蠛贤屯耆皇且换厥铝恕!
看看他签的合同不就清楚啦,他的合同可不是虎扑的网友开的。发自手机虎扑
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看看他签的合同不就清楚啦,他的合同可不是虎扑的网友开的。
NBA那么多垃圾合同怎么来的?不就是被高估了吗。。。
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NBA那么多垃圾合同怎么来的?不就是被高估了吗。。。
如果这个人从新秀合同之后一直能拿千万以上的合同呢?一直被高估?发自手机虎扑
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如果这个人从新秀合同之后一直能拿千万以上的合同呢?一直被高估?
合同是否是垃圾合同是表现和合同数值相比较得出的结论。一个球员拿2000W,打1000W的水平,虽然也是联盟水准以上,但是就是垃圾合同。我不明白你的意思是什么。
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巴蒂尔都有2次二防。都比伊戈达拉多。虽说荣誉不能说明一切,但是作为顶级防守球员居然只有1次二防。而防守阵容是教练选的,你觉得NBA教练都不懂球?
希伯特都没进 ! 你说联盟怎么想呢
什么都不可以
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球员的好坏要以合同来作为参考,因为NBA不是我们打野球,实力就是一切。迳遣皇呛们蛟保苛跻姿故遣皇呛们蛟保克嵌疾淮恚桥渖夏歉龃蠛贤屯耆皇且换厥铝恕!
在如今马丁700万 爱丽丝张嘴顶新闭嘴顶新的日子里 小AI不配均1260万的合同
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在如今马丁700万 爱丽丝张嘴顶新闭嘴顶新的日子里 小AI不配均1260万的合同
文中已经说了,小AI目前实力值1260W,但是签5年不值。看好三年后变成垃圾合同。
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合同是否是垃圾合同是表现和合同数值相比较得出的结论。一个球员拿2000W,打1000W的水平,虽然也是联盟水准以上,但是就是垃圾合同。我不明白你的意思是什么。
国王和掘金开出的合同,和一哥之前那份合同是一个等级的。也就是说一哥的表现是得到了认可和肯定的。而并不是论坛上的网民在胡乱高估。发自手机虎扑
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  掘金今日客场挑战灰熊,前者阵中前锋安德烈-伊戈达拉继续首发出场,全场他共出战34分54秒,8投3中得到7分、3次助攻,另外还出现了3次失误。整体而言,伊戈达拉今天的表现实在不抢眼,7分也是他赛季的最低得分,好在掘金其他球员够争气,最终还是以97-92战胜灰熊,结束了自己的三连败,同时也终结了对方的八连胜。
  本赛季伊戈达拉成为了掘金的一员,但是首个赛季征战的他并没有显出不适应,反而有一种“树挪死、人挪活”的惊喜,前面10场比赛下来,他以场均14.2分成为球队的得分王。倒不是说球队整体火力不支,而是太过于平均,全队有6人场均得分上双。在这样的球队里比赛,伊戈达拉在防守端的能力也被进一步激发了出来,场均6.9个篮板和1.0次封盖均为生涯新高。
  整体来看,伊戈达拉本赛季有越来越全面的倾向,先前一场比赛对阵勇士,他只差2次助攻就可以拿到三双。不过掘金还是需要他的攻击力,本赛季10场比赛,当他的得分达到13分,球队是4胜2负,不到的话则是4战全败。场上与球队融入顺利,场下伊戈达拉也有心情研究其他的事情,今天他在推特上晒出了自己最近在看的一本书:《孙子兵法》,虽然不知道他能从中悟出什么,但至少能看出他在新东家过得还挺愉快。
  本场比赛,伊戈达拉在上半场打得比较沉闷,整个半场才得到4分和3次助攻,所进的两球也都不是正常战术套路下的产物,其中多半有点进攻滞涩之后个人单打的意思。而两队的比分也一直胶着在一起,相差最多时也只不过是5分而已。第三节,伊戈达拉的状态也没有好转,一次进攻中选择自己突破,结果在抬手投篮的时候手滑了,直接把球权送给了对手,单节并无得分助攻等数据进账,甚至连篮板球也没有。这一节,还是只能用沉闷来形容他的表现。
  第四节5分42秒,伊戈达拉通过跳投命中个人本场第3球,这一球距离他上一次投篮命中已经过去了将近三节时间。在这过程中,他其实一直想要给队友创造机会,但要么出现失误,要么队友投篮不中,简单来说就是效果不好。不过好在他有一群可靠的队友,在比赛最后几分钟接管了比赛,伊戈达拉在最后4.5秒命中了一记罚球,算是为比赛做了一个收尾,最终掘金赢得比赛,终结了对方的八连胜。
  (编辑:维雨)【美国JRS之声】真实正负值仅次于詹杜,伊戈达拉的贡献是否被低估了?
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&()引言I feel like many
people highlighted last season as a career low for Andre Iguodala. He averaged
career lows in rebounds, steals, and blocks. His ppg of 9.3 was the lowest
since his rookie season! However, Iguodala was huge part of the Warriors's
success last season. We have to look at the advanced statistics to understand
his impact. Iguodala ranked third in the league for Real Plus Minus (a
statictic that helps determine a player's value to his team) behind only Lebron
and Durant. His defensive RPM was 8th in the league. Considering that the
statistic seems to highlight elite defenders such as Duncan, Howard, and Bogut,
this statistic must hold water to a certain extent. In addition, Iguodala led
the league in Plus Minus. Yes that's no typo. Obviously, plus minus depends on
the team's overall performance but it's clear the Warriors performed
significantly better while he was on the floor. In regards to scoring I think
Kerr's new motion offense should help open up opportunities for Iguodala to
score. But obviously that's not his main priority. He wants to do whatever it
takes to help his team win and his impact is subtle yet huge. What do you guys
think?&我觉得很多人过分关注了上赛季一哥的职业生涯新低数据表现。他的场均篮板、抢断和盖帽都创造了历史新低。他的场均<font color="#.3分更是自新秀赛季以来的最低值。但是,一哥也是勇士上赛季能够取得成功的重要组成部分。我们必须看到他数据上出色的部分从而能正视他的影响力。伊戈达拉拥有上赛季联盟第三的真实+/-值(用来评价一名球员对球队的价值的数据),只比勒布朗和杜兰特低。他的防守真实正负值是联盟第八。考虑到此数据是用来诸如突出强调诸如、霍华德还有之辈的优秀防守能力,因此此数据在一定程度上是站得住脚的。除此之外,伊戈达拉是联盟正负值最高的球员。相信我这没打错。显然,正负值取决于全队的整体表现,但可以看到,伊戈达拉在场上时勇士队的表现有显著地提升。关于得分方面,我认为科尔的新进攻战术会给伊戈达拉创造更多的得分机会。但显然这不是他的优先考虑。为了能帮助球队赢球,他愿意做任何事情,他对球队的影响是平凡而又伟大的。你们觉得怎样?[C]Knicks&183&指&1&天&前*&He is easily the most impactful
non-big defender in the league, just look at how much the Nuggets and Warriors
improved defensively after acquiring him. Iguodala does everything great on the
defensive end and is a very selfless player. He might actually be a bit&too&selfless
actually.他无疑是联盟里最有影响力的外线防守者,只需看一下在得到他后掘金和勇士的防守端进步了多少就知道了。伊戈达拉在防守端无所不能,而且还是个非常无私的球员。他其实有点过于无私了。&[C]NBA&92&指&1&天&前&He might actually be a
bit too selfless actually.Maybe he's just thrilled to be away
from Philly where he was miscast as a #1 option.或许他只是很激动能离开那个误把他当做当家核心的费城。&[C]Hawks&62&指&1&天&前&Ahh, the good ol' Joe Johnson syndrome.啊!一如当年的迳酆险鳌&[C]76ers&25&指&1&天&前&I don't know why your comment made
me think of this, but could you imagine him playing next to Lebron? Basically
the two best players on the opposing team would be locked down for the entire
game. Get a capable rim protector and those 3 pieces would automatically make
you the best defense in the league probably看了你的评论,我开始情不自禁的YY起来。你敢想象一哥在勒布朗身边打球的画面吗?这几乎是两个最佳的外线防守者可以封锁整场外线。再搞来一个可靠地篮筐守护者和几个3D球员,大概会让你的防守自动升级为联盟最佳吧。――[C]Warriors&10&指&1&天&前&A bit like Pippen and Jordan?是不是有一点像皮蓬和?[C]Warriors&10&指&1&天&前&it'd be like Lebron and Lebron-lite.比较像勒布朗和精简版勒布朗。&[C]76ers&25&指&1&天&前&Defensively he's probably about as close to Lebron as anyone in the league in terms of his skillset. If not even a little bit better than Lebron防守端,鉴于他的各种技能包,他大概比联盟中其他任何人都更接近勒布朗,甚至比勒布朗还要好一点。&[C]Clippers&25&指&1&天&前&he is better because lebron can't afford to pick up fouls so it takes away an extra level of peskyness on ball defense他会更好一点,因为勒布朗承受不起犯规风险,所以也没办法在烦人的有球防守方面更进一步。&[C]Lakers&27&指&1&天&前&I believe he is a better defender than LeBron. He's crazy good on that end.我相信他是个比勒布朗更好的防守队员。他在防守端真心赞。&[C]Cavaliers&3&指&19 hours ago&Iggy was drafted 9th in the same draft the Cavs had the 10th pick and ended up with Luke Jackson一哥当年是第九顺位,而拥有第十签位,最终却选了卢克逊。――――――――――&[C]Puerto
Rico&39&指&1&天&前&Iguodala and Bogut was already the
3rd best D in the league (best in the west) and that's with David Lee and Curry
playing significant minutes伊戈达拉和博古特都已经是联盟第三防守者了(西部最佳),这还是在大卫李和库里要很多出场时间的情况下。&[C]Celtics&27&指&1&天&前&Klay is a great defender as well.克莱也是个很棒的防守者。&[C]Warriors&13&指&1&天&前&Why a lot of us said NO to trading
him.这就是为何我们很多人都“拒绝”交易克莱。――――――――――&[C]Celtics&30&指&1&天&前&Iguodala's unselfishness is a good
and bad thing. When he was on the Nuggets, he would routinely give up easy
buckets because he was afraid of getting fouled (he had the worst FT% of his
career) and passed up lots of open shots too because his jump shot wasn't
falling. Lack of confidence increased as the season went on, and the same thing
happened when he went to the Warriors.At the start of last season, he was
hitting last second game winning shots, but as the season progressed, he took
less and less shots. If the Warriors want to be contenders, Iguodala has to
show up on offense because teams are going to be so focused on Curry and
Thompson.伊戈达拉的无私奉献是件喜忧参半的事情。他在掘金时,通常会放弃那些机会球因为他害怕被犯规(那年他的罚球命中率职业生涯最低),也因为跳投不佳错失了很多空位机会。随着赛季的进程,自信心也开始丢失,他在勇士也是一样。上赛季初他投进了绝杀球,但是随着赛季进行,他投篮越来越少。如果勇士想争冠,伊戈达拉必须在进攻端有所表现,因为现在球队在进攻端过于仰仗库里和汤普森了。&[C]Warriors&7&指&1&天&前&His hamstring was bothering him the
whole second half of the season, might have something to do with that.他的肌腱炎上赛季后半段一直困扰着他,可能和这有关吧。&[C]Trail
Blazers&4&指&1&天&前&i think barnes was more of an issue
than iggy last year我觉得小巴上赛季的问题比一哥更大。&[C]Celtics&1&指&1&天&前&Barnes outperformed expectations in
the previous year's playoffs, so the extra points were a bonus for GSW. Barnes
actually wasn't that much worse during the regular season, but in the most
recent playoffs, Mark Jackson had Barnes on a short leash and preferred to play
Iguodala at SF. Can't really fault Barnes for not putting up big numbers in the
playoffs when he was only given 1/3 of the playing time.巴恩斯上个季后赛里表现的大大超出人们期望,所以这些额外得分对金州勇士来说更多是额外奖励。巴恩斯在常规赛其实没有那么糟糕,但是最近一次季后赛,马克杰克逊紧紧拴着巴恩斯,更倾向于用伊戈达拉打小前锋。小巴只获得了1/3的出场时间,所以也真的不能怪他没有在季后赛打出好数据了。&[C]Spurs&4&指&1&天&前*&No disrespect against Iggy (he's
great and I think is underrated too), and this will obviously show some of my
bias as a Spurs fan, but I actually think that Kawhi is a better and more
impactful defender than AI a that size, and that Kawhi should have had his
place on the all NBA first team defense last year.Kawhi was&.
Some of this may come down to Spurs having a better overall team defense too,
but it's not like the Warriors were bad on defense (their opponent's points per
100 possessions was only.2 higher than the Spurs). Kawhi has an edge in so many
categories that I don't think you can place it all on the Spurs system.*edit. Just my opinion people. If
you're going to downvote, at least provide a counter argument.&My
argument is that Kawhi had more steals, blocks and def rebounds per 36 and per
100 possessions, as well as a better Drtg and more defensive win shares.
I'm sure there's valid arguments for Andre too, so you could at least have a
debate with me instead of just downvoting.没有看不起一哥或怎样(他很棒我也觉得他被低估了),作为刺蜜,我说这话可能也带一点点偏见,但是我真的认为卡哇伊在小前锋位置上是个比小AI更好也更有影响力的选手,他应该进入去年的防守一阵。卡哇伊基本上在每个关键防守环节都做得更好()。有一些是沾了马刺团队防守的光,但是勇士防守也不差的(他们限制对手每百回合得分只比马刺的高0.2分)。卡哇伊在很多指标上都很强所以我觉得你不能把所有这些都归功于马刺体系。36分钟和每100回合表现中有更多抢断、更多盖帽以及防守篮板,防守效率和防守win share也更好。我相信关于一哥也会有很多有效论证,所以你可以拿出来跟我讲而不只是乱点差评。&[C]USA&28&指&1&天&前&eh, ive watched alot of both of them
play and both are excellent on the defensive side, but i'm giving the nod to
iggy.iggy is asked to do much more on
defense, and like you said, the spurs have really smart defensive players that
are rarely out of position.kawhi is a better shut down one on
one defender, but watching iggy play defense is amazing好吧。这俩人的比赛我都看过很多,俩人都是很棒的防守端球员,但是我必须要给一哥点赞。一哥在防守端被要求的多多了,就像你说的,马刺拥有更聪明的防守者而且他们几乎从不出现在错的位置。卡哇伊单防能力更强,但是看一哥防守纯粹是享受。&[C]Spurs&0&指&1&天&前&I agree Iggy is probably more fun to
watch. He uses more of his raw athleticism to make plays, while Kawhi is more
effective because of his length. Kawhi's barely an inch taller but his wingspan
is 3 inches longer than Andre's.我同意一哥打球观赏性更高。他用了很多运动能力来表现,卡哇伊由于身高臂长则更高效。卡哇伊仅仅比一哥高一英寸,但是臂展多出3英寸来。――――――&[C][GSW] Chis
Webber&3&指&1&天&前&When Iggy went down we were allowing
about 8PPG more, which is crazy for a single player. You mentioned he has lower
raw numbers, yet he still made 1st team all-defense.. that should further show
his impact on that end. On top of that he mentored Klay and helped him turn
into the 2-way pl you can actually see the similarites
when he's playing D. Kawhi isn't a slouch or anything, but Iggy alone makes our
whole team better on the defensive end.. he could have the single biggest team
defensive impact (he's not the best one on one defender though) in the league.
Kawhi also still has potential so he could get better, especially in Pops
schemes, but prime defense Iggy is the easy choice right now.当一哥下场休息时我们场均要多丢8分多,只是因为一个球员不在场啊,这太可怕了。你之前讲的他的数据会少一点,但是他还是拿到了防守一阵。这更能体现他在防守端的影响力。除那以外,他还指导了克莱,让他变成了一个攻防兼备的运动员,可以看到阿汤在防守时身上有些一哥的影子。卡哇伊不是懒或怎样,但是一哥一个人就让我勇全队的防守变更好。他都可以说是全联盟里对球队防守影响最大的球员了(不过他的单防不是最好的)。卡哇伊也有潜力,他会变更好,尤其是在波波维奇的体制之下。不过要论巅峰防守能力,绝对还是一哥的。&[C][SAS] Kyle
Anderson&2&指&1&天&前&Over the course of the year Iggys
on/off stats say the warriors were on average allowing 4.7 more points per
game. For Kawhi and the spurs that number was 4.6 points per game, a trivial
difference.Basically neither team was elite
defensively without their small forward. And Kawhi is a better offensive player
at this point.纵观全年一哥在场/不在场的数据显示,勇士在一哥不在场时场均多丢4.7分,马刺这边伦纳德不上要多丢4.6分,微小的差距。基本上说,离开了他们的小前锋,两支球队的防守都谈不上精英级别,在当前这个点,伦纳德在进攻端表现更好。&[C]Warriors&1&指&19 hours ago&Is Kawhi a better offensive player
though? Iguodala is extremely versatile - he can play within the flow of the
offense, or he can initiate the offense as a point forward. He hasn't regressed
from his 20 ppg days, he is just shooting less within the offense.伦纳德进攻端就真的更强吗?伊戈达拉是个超级全能的球员,他在进攻端可融入进攻节奏,或者可以被拿来当大前锋使用。他还没有回到场均20分的岁月,他只是在进攻中出手更少了。&[C]76ers&1&指&21 hours ago&He is actually too selfless. That
was the big knock on him in philly, that and that he obviously can't be the
number one option on the team. But the role he is currently playing is perfect
for him, hes a good player.他有点太无私啦。在费城就严重限制了他,注定不能做球队的老大。但是他现在在球队扮演的角色很适合他,他是个好球员。&[C]Canada&1&指&20 hours ago&For sure to selfless. If you have
the offensive skill you're not doing your team favour by being a ghost barely
scoring. His passing has been great but he needs to be a threat shooting 3s
which he did great and terrible and times and scoring by attacking.确实太无私了。有进攻能力却不用,在球队进攻端像个幽灵基本不得分。他的传球很棒但是他需要在三分线外更有威胁,可是却时好时坏。&[C]Pacers&-1&指&21 hours ago&Saying he is easily the most
impactful is just hyperbole. There are several other guys who have an argument.
If I had to choose one guy it would be Tony Allen. What he did to KD this
postseason was one of the best defensive performances I've ever seen. Iggy has
never shutdown a superstar like that for the the entirety of a series from what
I can remember.说他是最有影响力的球员有点夸张了。还有几个人也有这个分量的。如果必须要选一个我会选。他在季后赛对KD的防守简直是我见过的最好的防守。我的印象里一哥从没像他那样整个系列赛单防一个人防到那么好。&[C]Warriors&74&指&1&天&前&I don't really think anyone
overlooks him, I mean he just made all-defense first team in a season where he
missed 18 games...我倒是没觉得有任何人会低估他,他缺席了18场还进了防守一阵……&[C][GSW]
Draymond Green&5&指&1&天&前&"Iguodala is a poor man's
LeBron with better defense"伊戈达拉就是一个防守更好的穷人版勒布朗。&[C]Hawks&12&指&23 hours ago&He was better last season for sure.
I think LeBron's true talent level is higher, but I suspect there's some
tradeoff between offensive and defensive effort. Iggy didn't have to be a #1
option in O Bron did in Miami.就上赛季来说一哥确实防守更好。我认为勒布朗的天赋更好,但是我怀疑他在进攻端和防守端投入的精力有一些权衡。一哥不用做勇士的老大,老詹却是迈阿密的老大。&[C]Knicks&5&指&23 hours ago&It's hard to tell. But LeBron was
pretty mediocre on defense this year, probably tired from carrying the team on
offense.这个很难讲啦。但是老詹这个赛季在防守上真是非常一般,可能是因为在进攻上需要扛着全队的关系吧。&[C]Brazil&5&指&21 hours ago&LeBron has to be careful not to pick
up fouls and occasionally will take it easy on a few plays because he has to do
so much offensively. If LeBron were in the same role as Iggy it would be a lot
closer.老詹必须很小心不要惹上犯规麻烦,而且有些球会偷个懒因为他进攻端要贡献太多了。如果老詹也和一哥一样专心防守他们之间的差距会小很多。&[C][GSW]
Harrison Barnes&2&指&16 hours ago&If LeBron's role was to be a
lockdown defender only, he'd be the best in the league at it. I don't think
Iguodala or anybody would stand a chance.LeBron can guard 1-4, and even 5 on
occasion. He's also the best chasedown blocker of all time, racks up steals,
and plays amazing help defense. Watching playoff LBJ play defense is like
watching a lion take down a gazelle.如果老詹定位专职防守,他应该会是联盟最好的防守者。我不觉得伊戈达拉或其他任何人有机会跟他比。勒布朗可以防守1-4号位,偶尔还能防个中锋。他还一直有不错的盖帽和抢断,协防也很赞。看季后赛里老詹的防守就像看一头狮子在擒羚羊。&[C]76ers&33&指&1&天&前&Just look at how the Sixers defense
was impacted when he&left&the team. We went from 3rd overall
in 2012 by holding Opponents to 89.4 PPG, to 10th overall in 2013, giving up
96.5 PPG. Granted, we also lost Elton Brand (who was probably the most
underrated defensive player of 2012), but we also saw an increase in opponent
eFG% from .465 to .490. Why? Because there was no Iguodala prowling the wings
to scare off the 3-point shooters.He's quite possibly one of the most
divisive players in Sixers history. But, in my experience, those who truly
understand and watch basketball appreciated his overall game instead of
focusing on his frustrating shot selection and preference for deferring at
unnecessary times.只需要看看当一哥离开费城后76人的防守受了多大影响就够了。我们从2012年联盟第三的防守水平降到了2013年的第十位,限制对手得分水平也从每场89.4分降到96.5分。也要承认,我们失去了埃尔顿布兰德(也许是2012年最被低估的防守球员),但是我们也看到对手的有效命中率从0.465上升到0.490,为什么?因为没有伊戈达拉徘徊在侧翼来逼退对手的3分射手们。他很有可能是76人历史上最不合的球员之一。但是,从我的经验来说,那些真心懂篮球爱看篮球的人会很欣赏他的整个表现而不是聚焦在他在一些不必要的投篮选择和偏好上的纠结&[C]76ers&13&指&1&天&前&I was often frustrated with Iggy
during his time in Philly, but I was also aware it wasn't all his fault. He was
forced to be something he wasn't in our #1 scorer. Then you start looking at
him as a #1 scorer who had trouble scoring and you get frustrated with his
contract.一哥在费城的时候我也经常很糟心,但是我一直都知道那不是他的问题。他被迫担当我们的第一得分手,于是你就会看到他作为第一得分手经常出现得分困难的问题,然后你就开始担心他会不会变成垃圾合同。[C][GSW]
Andre Igoudala&12&指&1&天&前&Most people would agree that Shane
Battier at his peak didn't put up stats but still had a big impact on the game.
Dre is Battier with elite athleticism. I think it's easier to acknowledge a
role player that does the little things well but harder when it's a star.多数人都会同意肖恩巴蒂尔巅峰时期数据也不怎么样但是对比赛影响很大。一哥就是运动能力加强版的巴蒂尔。我认为,我们更容易去接受一个角色球员把细枝末节的事做得很棒,但如果是明星就要另当别论了。[C]Nuggets&1&指&15 hours ago&except battier could hit the 3
consistently. iggy still inconsistent last season. he needs to pull a Kidd and
learn to shoot the corner 3 consistently then I would fully agree. but good
comparison.只不过巴蒂尔在三分方面可以稳定输出。一哥上赛季的三分还是不够稳定。他得找个基德的录像学习一下怎么稳定地投底角三分,然后我就能信服了。不过这一对很好的比较对象。&[C]Lakers&7&指&1&天&前&He's almost like the guard version
of Ben Wallace, but obviously way more talented offensively. Impacts the game
in multiple areas, while not always scoring. He's capable of scoring at times,
but leaves his mark defensively and on the glass, while also creating offense.他几乎就是后卫版的本华莱士,但是进攻端有天赋多了。在比赛中的影响力遍及各处,还是在经常不进球的情况下。他有时候能承担进球责任,在创造进攻的同时还在防守端闪耀。&[C]NBA&8&指&1&天&前&But be aware that Ben was MUCH
better at D than Iguadola. He was shorter (6'7 without shoes) and could gaurd
3-5 at a hyper elite level, and be the best rim protector in the league.Ben, in my opinion, is the most
ubderrated player of all time.但是要知道大本在防守上要完全强过伊戈达拉,他更矮一点(6尺7不穿鞋),能非常出色地防守3-5号位,然后还是联盟最好的篮筐守护者。大本在我看来是有史以来最被低估的选手。&[C]Knicks&5&指&1&天&前&Iggy is part of a very special kind
of player, one that is very rare on the league, these guys will fix a team and,
as we're so stat-oriented, it's sometimes tough to understand why it happened.
Iggy is probably the best of his kind, just look at the Warriors and the
Nuggets with and without him and you can see what I'm talking about. He's a
mo'fucking problem solver, that's what he is.一哥是那种非常特别的球员,联盟里很缺少的类型,这些家伙能搞定一支球队。有些时候我们太执迷于数据方面了,很难去理解为何会这样。一哥大概是这个类型中的翘楚,只需要看看没了他的掘金和勇士就知道我说的啥了。他就是特么的处理问题小能手,这就是他。&[C][NYK] Iman
Shumpert&7&指&1&天&前&He is. I still think he's the second
best player on the Warriors in terms of contribution and impact.他是的。鉴于他的贡献和影响力,我依然觉得他是勇士队第二好的球员。[C][PHX]
T.J. Warren&1&指&1&天&前&<font size="3" face="微软雅黑" color="#00x yes. I would give anything to
have Iggy on my team, I'd trade that guy straight up for Bledsoe if he were 2
years younger.+10086,如果一哥能来我队上我愿意献出任何东西,如果一哥年轻2岁我会愿意直接拿血布来换。&[C]Warriors&15&指&1&天&前&well.. in Importance.. it's Bogut.Cuz if Iggy went down in the
playoffs instead.. we'd just plug Draay or Barnes in好吧。。就重要性来说,是博古特(第二)因为如果季后赛是一哥休战了,我们只要把追梦和巴恩斯放场上就行了。&[C][CHI]
Joakim Noah&6&指&1&天&前&I would like to know why Real Plus
Minus&&sixth
among small forwards, ahead of Kawhi Leonard, Carmelo Anthony, and Paul George.
I'm not dismissing the stat, I like what it's attempting to do, but even though
I'm a fan of Dunleavy that seems like an odd result.我想知道为什么的真实正负值排名会排在小前锋的第六位,超过、卡梅罗和。我不是看不起这个数据,只是想知道这意味着什么,即使我是邓利维的球迷我都觉得这数据看起来有点奇怪。&[C]Nuggets&1&指&16 hours ago&I feel this is wiggins ceiling as a
player is being an igoudala 2.0, unless he improves his jumpshot. only thing I
see as a weak spot of his game is that he could never shoot a jumpshot unless
it is a game winner. if wiggins can be iggy with a jumpshot... watch out.我觉得维金斯的上限可能就会是伊戈达拉2.0,除非他的跳投进步很大。我看到他比赛中有个大问题是他只能在顺风球时进跳投。如果维金斯可以成为有跳投的一哥。。你最好小心点。&[C]South
Korea&1&指&9 hours ago&Iggy is my favorite player in the
league for this reason. He does so many things well (maybe not FT shooting),
and his impact imo is very very underrated. He's a first-rate defender and has
the size and strength to even guard PFs. He is amazing on the fastbreak as he
can finish at the rim and has surprisingly-good court vision to find open
teammates. He can also ball-handle fairly well, allowing Curry to wreak havoc
running around pindown and flare screens for open shots. 一哥是我这个赛季联盟里最喜欢的球员。他能干好太多事情了(罚球可能除外),在我看来他的影响力非常非常被低估。他是个一流的防守者,身材力量都足以防守大前锋。他在快攻中的终结能力很强,球场视野好得出奇,能给直接找到空位队友。他的控球也很好,可以让库里穿插跑位肆虐找到空位投篮。&[C]Celtics&1&指&22 hours ago*&Glad this is here. I may be the only
person but I've been repping the Iggy Borderline HOF train for a few years now.
He has been a top 5 wing defender in the league for probably 6-7 years and is a
fantastic passer, dribbler, transition scorer, while keeping turnovers low and
rebounding well for his position. He's basically slightly worse than LeBron in
all categories except creating his own shot of Iso (the most overrated skill in
the league by average fans) where he is far worse however there are basically 5
players in the league who create their own shot off Iso well enough that it is
actually more efficient and productive than running a solid, motion based
offense.很高兴看到这篇。我可能是唯一一个,但是我这几年一直在说一哥在名人堂边缘。六七年来,他一直是联盟前五好的侧翼防守人,一个极佳的传球手,持球者,轮转得分手,保持着低失误和不错的篮板。他大概在全部的数据上都只比勒布朗差一点点,除了在持球创造单打机会上(最被一般球迷高估的一项技能)差很多,但是全联盟大概也只有5个球员左右单打效率会比跑一个稳定的进攻战术更高。&[C]Nuggets&1&指&20 hours ago&agree with most of what you said but
being a top 5 wing defender for years and a versatile player doesn't make you
borderline HOF. have to put up a little more statistically and more playoff
success to be borderline HOF. not saying he isn' Iggy's one of my
favorites in the league. but let's not get silly - you need either very good
individual stats or being a leader on championship teams to get considered for
that. 14, 5, and 6 with 1 all star game and 2 all defensive seasons doesn't
even sniff the hall你说的大部分我都同意,但是多年的优秀侧翼防守者和全面性球员不能说你就摸到名人堂边了。必须要拿出一些数据以及季后赛成绩来谈名人堂。倒不是说他不够好,一哥也是联盟里我最喜欢的球员之一,但是不要闹,你要么个人数据很棒要么是冠军队伍的核心才有机会。14+5+6,一次全明星2次防守阵容不足以进入名人堂的。&[C]Heat&1&指&19 hours ago&except Iggy can't score well enough
to be an all star, much less a hof player...
一哥的得分不足以进入全明星,更不要说名人堂球员了。手工作业,有误请指出。[img].cn/brightphoto/images/iconGif.png); background-repeat: no-repeat no-">&前期回顾:订阅请@JRS之声粉丝QQ群:<font color="#ff087 &JRS之声翻译爱好者以及对JRS之声创作有兴趣的JR加二群:<font color="#ff545 &进群必须注明IDPS:1.转载请务必标明出处和链接,尤其是包卜网,直播吧,百度贴吧,ACFUN和新浪。2、转载时请注明本人ID,以及虎扑【美国JRS之声】,不要写错。&&
It's time.
"Mama, there goes that man!"
这些回帖亮了
一哥,不知怎么形容,老给人一种想干不能干的暧昧感……让人不知其深浅
当詹姆斯当年还在骑士的时候,我就一直幻想着管理层能不能把一哥弄来。他是詹姆斯完美的皮蓬,完全是副手的态度,小号勒布朗般的身体素质,抢断防守三分扣篮样样皆行。不知道有没有这么YY过的JR
上赛季防守真实正负值排名前十的球员中,一哥是唯一的外线球员
引用1楼 @ 发表的:一哥,不知怎么形容,老给人一种想干不能干的暧昧感……让人不知其深浅这么邪恶,借图一用:
伊戈达拉就是一个防守更好的穷人版勒布朗――精辟!
一哥先别掏钱给詹黑看病,自己先看看心理医生,让大夫给一哥提提气,把出手自信找回来!一哥打不出来真是可惜了
伊戈达拉给勇士带来了强力的防守和激情,当然,我还不能忘记上赛季他那个跳投绝杀。[ 此帖被不再丶联系在 14:23修改 ]
评论地址:翻译:@ 审核@ @&备注:我勇缺了一哥大嘴都玩不转啊!!新赛季求健康!
他还被低估?明显被高估 勇士防守好是因为他?季后赛被快船射出屎了,被射出屎的主要原因是没有博古特,常规赛勇士防守好也是因为博古特打了60多场
真实正负值被高估了。。。发自手机虎扑
说句不能算是难听的话,一哥在上赛季的得分欲望是低的不能再低了,出了机会还想继续制造机会就是多此一举浪费机会,除了关键球,其他时候的得分太被动也太犹豫,另外罚球也是有史以来最差的,和中锋的水平都差不多了。他的确是带动了勇士整个外线防守体系,但在个人单防方面相比之下不算突出,也有过多多少少出漏洞被打花的情况,如果一哥要想继续给球队带来更多的贡献,下赛季必须做出一定的改变了
目前的勇士需要他做的更多
只有他能加强突破造犯规 多得分 外线的双枪才有机会放光芒
上赛季勇士阵容强大但是常规赛战绩一般的很大原因是 双枪占了全队的大部分的进攻资源 并且是在全联盟对上勇士都是死掐外线的情况
另外替补渣也是一点原因
新赛季希望小巴能迅速成长 发挥进攻才华 跟一哥竞争首发
另外希望李玟也能组织好替补
上赛季的一哥确实在进攻端隐形了,科尔之前说了要让一哥在进攻端的角色加重,不能只站在底角等球,我想说太赞同了,其实一哥的能力场均15分真的不难,他的三分不能算稳定但其实一哥的持球能力很不错,中投也曾经绝杀过,我觉得他是对自己不够自信,不求有功但求无过,但真要逼到绝境他还是能把那个该死的球稳稳投进,希望科尔能唤醒一哥这头沉睡的狮子~
一哥,不知怎么形容,老给人一种想干不能干的暧昧感……让人不知其深浅
需要订阅请联系我。
被召唤术@到的JR如不需要,也请联系我。。我取消
伊戈达拉就是一个防守更好的穷人版勒布朗――精辟!
明明可以靠脸吃饭,却偏偏要靠才华~~~O(∩_∩)O
怎么觉得被高估了
零售车载导航,有意者私信联系
来肛帖了 肛
上赛季防守真实正负值排名前十的球员中,一哥是唯一的外线球员
听着,不是你的发际线在后退,而是你在不断地前进啊!!!
我从来都觉得一哥是”作用是数据不能体现的“最完美代言人
毕竟得分太少,十分都没有!
岁月催人老,名利都忘掉,一壶浊酒把梦醉倒,生死也寂寥!
贪一个拥抱,管他迟与早,放爱去逍遥!
不知一哥有没有拿过最佳防守球员,我觉得他应该拿一个发自手机虎扑
做过才知对错。
顶级的防守,不错的组织能力,一般的进攻水平。没有被高估也没有被低估,极品角色球员,难当球队核心。
有两样东西,越是经常而持久地对它们进行反复思考,它们就越是使心灵充满常新而日益增长的惊赞和敬畏:我头上的星空和我心中的道德法则。
评论地址:翻译:@ 审核@ @&备注:我勇缺了一哥大嘴都玩不转啊!!新赛季求健康!
It's time.
"Mama, there goes that man!"
伊戈达拉给勇士带来了强力的防守和激情,当然,我还不能忘记上赛季他那个跳投绝杀。[ 此帖被不再丶联系在 14:23修改 ]
明明可以靠脸吃饭,却偏偏要靠才华~~~O(∩_∩)O
LZ是一哥吹 大家不要慌张
这是我们的时代
黑詹姆斯该看心理医生了,我愿出钱――土豪一哥
望细观吾言,不知可亮否?
No chance.No chance.No chance at all.
大爱一哥,一直期望他可以去当科比的皮蓬!!
在出的鞋子均为现货;
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一哥确实无私 但是我觉得上赛季有点过于无私了
该干的时候还得干
像季后赛那样其实不错
(然后季后赛要打的像在76人那样
T-Mac Forever&We are Warriors
引用1楼 @ 发表的:一哥,不知怎么形容,老给人一种想干不能干的暧昧感……让人不知其深浅这么邪恶,借图一用:
明明可以靠脸吃饭,却偏偏要靠才华~~~O(∩_∩)O
引用16楼 @ 发表的:
这么邪恶,借图一用:
擦又是这图
需要订阅请联系我。
被召唤术@到的JR如不需要,也请联系我。。我取消
如果当年骑士选的是一哥。。。画面太美。。。
目前的勇士需要他做的更多
只有他能加强突破造犯规 多得分 外线的双枪才有机会放光芒
上赛季勇士阵容强大但是常规赛战绩一般的很大原因是 双枪占了全队的大部分的进攻资源 并且是在全联盟对上勇士都是死掐外线的情况
另外替补渣也是一点原因
新赛季希望小巴能迅速成长 发挥进攻才华 跟一哥竞争首发
另外希望李玟也能组织好替补
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